This Irish team is a mess and I’m not pointing the finger at the players. It is time that the vastly overpaid manager and his back room team were sent packing.

That’s another player who has fallen out wit the management team,losing count of how many that is now. Why does Trap insist on playing these players who are either,not playing for a club or are playing in the reserves, ahead of premier league players and players that play regular football!!?

Trap seems to have completely lost the dressing room – picking horrendous players over mediocre, but solid players. As poor as some of the current selection are, we are still not a team that should be losing 6-1 at home to Germany. That heavy defeat was an accumulated result of stubbornly picking the “Yes men” for so long and then at the last moment, picking some younger players who he has frequently refused to acknowledge or who he frequently criticises – One example: I don’t know how many times I’ve heard him criticise Seamus Coleman since he first got into the Everton first team. As much as Coleman’s had to overcome second-season syndrome through a combination of unfortunate injuries and feeling the pressure, he’s still a betters choice on the right wing than Simon Cox. How the likes of Clarke and Shane Long are still even talking to Trap (maybe they don’t), I’ll never know. If I was in their position, I wouldn’t exactly be up to performing for this guy. Maybe this is all a MAJOR misunderstanding that we’ll all lay at in years to come: it’s all simply because his communication skills are inadequate at best. Maybe we should all have paid more attention to that video of his infamous press-conference when he was Bayern München coach rather than laughing with it. He continues to refuse to utilise players in their best positions, instead forcing them into his methods. It’s like watching my one-year old trying to put her triangular block into a circular hole. The difference is, she eventually susses out it needs to go into the triangular hole.

OK, rant over. I needed that!

I hate to say this, but I hope the Faroes beat us and the FAI have no choice but to sack Trap. He certainly doesn’t look like quitting though, the stubborn aul sod, and why would he? Easy money.

Playing players like o dee ahead of premier league regulars Kelly and Wilson is just the tip off the ice berg under the trap era. Trap and tardelli have to go, I know the expense will hurt but if you have no fans turning up to the Aviva what is worse???

Teflon Delaney needs to be looked at too. He was there for the Saipan fiasco, instrumental in appointing and supporting the incompetent Staunton and gave Trap a new contract before the euros, sounds like three strikes to me!!

I’d say Trap would fall out with his own shadow! We’ve been swindled… Go home you aul fart & take Delaney with you!!!

He’s right in fairness

I agree we don’t have the players we once had but all are still professional. The management have lost the trust of the players and the team has zero spirit . You’d be surprised where a bit of collective spirit will get you….

i was one who tought we might have given them germans a good game the other nite ,,How wrong of me to think we might go out and try our best ,,myself and my daughter sat down and watched the whole game ,,that was pretty hard to do ,,not one good thing to say about that game ,we love Ireland would love to see us get to brazil ,,but dont even see that now ,,we need to have a big rethink about the whole set up ,before its to late ,,i really dont know what ,,just hope the other nite is not the start of whats coming in the future for us

Overheard in the pub during Germnay game “jesus, we’re like the new Northern Ireland” (no offence lads)

Look he has to go…trap is a dinosaur a relic to the old days of football,football is a different sport to the days when trap was winning trophies its more athletic technique driven..i know we dont have outstanding players but we have a lot of players who play in the best league in the world..so we have good players..if u tell players they are not good enough to pass and play they start to question their ability..thus do not turn up..look he dosent scout players go to games even bother his ass learning english..this is his gravy train to his pension..other managers would be more than happy to take the job and do it right with pride and conviction. I couldnt see brian mc dermot,sean o driscol,roy keane,mc carthy doin it half assed not goin to league sitting on a chair sub_contracting their job and watching dvds..also delaney has to go to..his salary his way over estimated for the work he does..when league of ireland clubs are struggling..the whole enity of irish football has to be rethought…grassroots up..look at belguim they did it a few years ago it was’nt easy for them but look at the return they are getting now..look at the irfu..change needs to come..every irish supporter deserves it..every dad/mom bringing their kids to trainning and matchdays in parks deserve it..but first things first tommorrow nights i can see the players on the squad revolting hoping to get a change..and maybe loosing tommorrow might be greatest thing to happen to irish football since italia 90

I didn’t see the point in us going to the Euro as we had no game plan or ability to actually win a match, this has been the case all through the Trapattoni reign, it is amazing that it has taken this long but the tide is finally turning and people are beginning to see through this con man, let’s get a decent manager in and start from now building a team we can be proud of.

Can see it being the most shameful night in Irish footballing history. Will be very lucky to finish with a point. Can see a faroes win. Hopefully it’s Traps last in charge

what is wrong with the people in this country,we seem to be conditioned for bullshit and sub standard performances,by our best paid people,wise up,Traps reign has become a embarressing ball of pure chaos,i think the guy is half mad,everyone else in the world is wrong,but ol trap thinks he is right,talk about nero playing the fiddle while rome burns,we dont have world class players ,we rarely have had players of that class in the past,but we have always had our best men on the field,playing with pride and commitment,now our best men are marginalised,for no good reasons,trap is killing our team and sending us back to the bad old days,forget the germany game,concentrate on his other many screw ups,this guy has to go and quick,he couldnt care less about this little back water or it fans,he has his own agenda.TRAP OUT DELANEY OUT!

Maybe a full player protest might shame him into quitting, instead of waiting for his payoff.

we are the minnows

And to think we could have a Premier League 11 like this – Westwood
Kelly-Dunne-Clarke-Brady(Harte)

Coleman,McCarthy,Hoolohan,McClean

Long-Walters.

Subs-Brian Murphy (gk) Ireland,Pilkington,A Reid, Pearce,Keane,Doyle,S Reid.

Feel free to judge or change it around.A much better looking team that what that “Manager” Picks imo.

Just get all the players to learn Italian …. problem solved . Simples !

@Jason. My point is away fans for Ireland have been through the wringer and been through the darkest days. We are a snobby old bunch of fans at home, and while I think we have decent players at our disposal, a slaughtering by Germany is only surprising in the sense that we showed no spirit at all

This may have already been said, however the manager is out of touch with the game. We resort to the same tactic’s every game. He refuses to pick superior players in positions and instead sticks to players which he views fits his system. The fact of the matter is even if we had an Alonso or Xavi in our team, the manager would still potentially not pick them as they do not fit his system. He says we dont have the players, I disagree. I admit, even if we played the way I would like us to play, I still would not see us beating the Germans, but at least a draw would potentially of being obtainable. Another concern is the manager says there are no more players to discover!? This is blasphemy as far as I am concerned, there are always players coming through at under age level or in the leagues if he viewed the games. Its a sad thing to say our manager doesn’t actually view our players. Our team has no plan B, even the weakest teams have a plan B.

The most damning thing of all, is his stubbornness, his man management is disgraceful and has clearly lost the dressing room. Our players are being good little Irish lads and not kicking up a fuss but now it looks even the players have said enough is enough. Last Friday against the Germans I didn’t see a team, I didn’t see a team that would fight until the end, I saw school boys, completely out of depth and a manager who has shown no leadership.

For the last 4 years I have wanted Trap to go, no disrespect to man, huge respect for what he has done in the game, but his time has come and past. Even if we are not to qualify, I want to see us attempt to play football. Give us something to get excited about, not go right 90 minutes of balls to the wall.

It is clear he lost the dressing room

the sooner the better they are out of all competitions, We dont belong at the world cup the way things are….

Any truth he told Tardelli, ” I ain’t Gettin on no plane fool” at which point Trap handed him a glass of milk and said drink this

anyone who.plays ball at any level, knows that managers have favourites. trouble is the favourites aren’t doing the Job. trap has to go.

I have been following Irish football for 40 years and the sad reality is that at this present time we simply do not have the quality of player to compete.(we do have lots of young players coming through so do not despair for the future). With injuries, abstentions and retirements our results reflect where we are at the moment. The players have given it all they have got and I can’t see how the manager could really have changed much. The chant’ you only sing when you’re winning’ comes to mind with some of the supporters comments that have appeared in the papers recently about the players and manager. its time to support them not put them down.

No matter what the crisis and opinions about Trapattoni I would never wish defeat on my country.I would love to see the lads ignore Traps tactics and have a real go tomorrow night.Wont happen though…

Roy Keane told this story a decade ago, and he was turned into a pariah in most quarters. Kelly, Andy Reid, McClean, Meyler, Ciaran Clark,Long, Doyle and few more besides. Darren O Dea couldn’t get a game with Cork City!
These are the guys that fraud is overlooking for the large part. Piss off back to the boot and take your friends

I don’t even see us getting a draw against the Faroe’s at this rate. The Irish team is a complete mess. The players have lost faith in Trap. This is a crisis

It’s time for trap to go, we played quality opposition that all play champions league football, where we have one player, a very over rated Mcgeady… But I don’t get his tactics, some of the players starting, o dea, ward, cox, they play in lesser leagues as to Clarke Kelly long! We’re saying that latter guys are inexperienced as to the other boys, but surely if you start week in week out in a better division Surely your a better player!!
We need to say goodbye to trap, maybe look at mick mac to come back or coyle or maybe somebody that can speak the language!!!

I hope they get beat now they ll give 30 mins then that’s it

Apart from Cork people , who would not like to see Mick McCarthy back in the job ? Proper man-manager !

Barry Tee….your on the button on both counts….particularly learning Italian bit……love it !!!!

Some players sniff Trap’s weakened position and are exploiting it perhaps with a view to heaping on pressure. Gibson (not enough room for him and his ego in the Aviva), McClean (does anybody think he is really injured – he will be available next weekend for Sunderland) and now Kelly ( the reason he’s being ignored is that he’s useless – does he honestly think he’s better than Coleman). Irrespective of anything else, if Trap no longer has the dressing room, he cannot continue to manage.