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Column: Lingerie football? Our real sporting heroines deserve limelight first

Women’s sport is dismissed as a ‘niche interest’ – and it’ll stay that way until we give it more of the spotlight, writes Niamh O’Mahony.

WOMEN. PLAYING AMERICAN Football. In lingerie. In Ireland. There’s a lot that is odd about that idea, but the organisers behind America’s Lingerie Football league seem to believe that there is enough about the concept to introduce it to a series of countries across Europe, including Ireland.

Thankfully, we live in a country where everyone can pretty much do as they please – aside from inflicting hurt on others – and if there are women out there that prefer playing a sport in their underwear rather than competing at a decent level in the many other options available to them, I’m not about to criticise.

However, as someone who was involved in sport for years and who talks to female athletes on a regular basis, I can promise you that women don’t want to be known for being good at something because of their sex, they want to be known for the skills that they have spent years developing – demonstrating the same level of commitment as their male counterparts.

I spent some time recently talking to a player that competes in the Women’s National League for Cork Women’s FC. She spoke at length about her desire to win every game that she is part of and as someone who is also involved in the Cork Ladies football panel, she quite often plays back-to-back competitive fixtures with 24 hours. When I asked her why she pushes herself to that degree, her answer was simple: “I just love it.”

Boxers in skirts

Those sentiments are not unusual and you’ll find them in every dressing room up and down the country – regardless of whether participants are male or female.

The recent adventures of Katie Taylor in London have done a lot to counter the belief that women’s sport isn’t competitive. The Bray woman was repeatedly described as a great fighter at 2012 Olympic Games rather than a great female boxer and those tributes will, no doubt, have meant the world to her.

The focus was firmly on Taylor’s ability and potential rather than her looks and what she was wearing, and let’s not forget that there were moves to have the female boxers wear skirts while competing at these Games.

Research in the UK by the Women’s Sport & Fitness Foundation has found that women’s sports account for only five per cent of all television coverage in the UK on a yearly basis (in a non-Olympic year) and that just 0.5 per cent of all sports sponsorship secured was used to support female competitors or teams.

More recent findings – from a survey conducted during the Olympics Games - confirmed a growing interest in women’s sport in the UK with 74 per cent of respondents impressed by the quality of what they witnessed in London.

In Ireland, like the UK, only a limited amount of air time is given over to women’s sports outside of the Olympic Games. It includes coverage of the All-Ireland Ladies Football and Camogie finals as well as Wimbledon’s Ladies Singles final.

Vicious circle

Editors and TV schedulers will argue there’s only a niche interest in many of these sports and that viewing figures don’t justify coverage. However, exposure to a mass audience is crucial in driving the development and popularity of any sport and more TV and media coverage is essential if women’s sports are to gain increased interest, backing and crowds.

It’s a vicious circle. Sports and individual competitors don’t get extra attention from the media and Ireland’s sporting public without a decent level of interest, but they usually need that same attention to increase the numbers interested in the first place. Take Irish cricket as an example – the squad did well at successive international tournaments that were broadcast on Sky and suddenly interest at grassroots level has skyrocketed. It’s not just women that have to battle to secure some prime time television coverage!

Katie Taylor’s achievements will hopefully inspire a generation of young Irish girls to become more active in sport over the coming years but though we knew we had a world class boxer on our hands, she still prepared for the Olympic Games in a gym without a toilet and rarely had any of her fights before London covered live on television.

The ESRI found that four in every five Irish women were not getting enough daily exercise in 2005 and though the Irish Sports Council’s ‘Women in Sport Initiative’ is hard at work trying to reverse this, our gold medal-winning Olympian will probably achieve more in terms of getting children active in Ireland than any other State scheme.

Thousands of women across the island demonstrate the same dedication and will to win as Katie Taylor week in week out, and they are only too ready and able to take up the mantle of putting women’s sport up on a public stage where it belongs. The talent is there, the infrastructures are (slowly) improving while the establishment of the Women’s National League in 2011 are important developments in the overall picture.

However, these steps need to be accompanied by a better understanding of some of the biggest issues facing all sports in Ireland – so forget about women playing American football in lingerie, it’s time to give our real sporting heroines more of the limelight.

Niamh O’Mahony is a journalist, content strategist and sports fanatic based in Cork. She blogs at Balls & Handbags.

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Comments (41 Comments)

  • Very interesting I wonder will RTE cover the games instead of that boring MNS.

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  • More pics of women in lingerie needed.

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  • Where’s the slide show?

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  • In the words of Father Jack … “More water! “

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  • Lingerie camogie anyone?

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  • Unfortunately its a bit of a catch twenty two in a lot of female sports. The sportswomen involved work hard for the love of the sport and the competition but don’t get the recognition or viewers or money that men do unless its sexed up for male consumption. This is probably due to males being the bigger watchers of sport (my girlfriend has never fought with me to have the channel changed TO the football). Men often won’t watch womens sport because the highest levels in most televised sports are achieved by men. I say this not to offend but a quick look at the difference between men’s and women’s track and field records in the Olympics just passed would emphasise my point. The catch twenty two is that if you want to get the viewership it must be targeted toward men, and if you target it toward men you disenfranchise the women viewers. Two examples… what do you think most wives or girlfriends who walked into find their partners watching women’s beach volleyball during the Olympics thought? (glad to see him take an interest in women’s sport or typical dirty minded man) Second example, this article and the level of comment its receiving, I wonder if the same level of views and comments would have occurred if it showed a different picture.

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    • All depends on the picture.

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    • Great article by O’Mahony.

      Fair point by Brendan re. the imagery, etc. Compare the images and comments here: http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-the-ireland-womens-rugby-team-is-being-ignored-they-deserve-better-358811-Feb2012/

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    • Lola 02/09/12 #

      @Brendan I suppose it depends on the girl. I’ve been known to go Katie Taylor on anyone trying to change the channel when I’m watching hockey. Or football. Yes, particularly the women’s teams (CAN-USA in London? Did you SEE that? Didya?! Ninety-four near heart attacks within ten minutes!) – though I don’t discriminate against the lads. Loved team Ireland at the Euro, though they wouldn’t win a feckin flowerpot against the millionaires of Spain, Germany, Italy et al. No matter.
      Still, you hit the nail on the proverbial head. Catch 22 indeed. I noticed too that Europe’s lagging behind a bit in coverage of women’s sports. Instead of feisty gals chasing a puck, I get to look at ‘Feed the World’ adverts, aka model casting shows. Gee, thanks.
      But here’s the thing I don’t understand: don’t you lads like to look at strong, fierce, enthusiastic and competent women having at a ball (or jump, or puck) just for the fun of it? is it really only ever about the ‘highest levels’? You watch beach volleyball (and fair play to ye if you do) only for the legs and derrières, or do you cheer for your team, too? When those gorgeous ladies in the picture score a touchdown, does it not matter? And wouldn’t they be just as gorgeous with more clothes (though they might sweat more)? Or is it really just that you don’t watch because noone’s broadcasting even the most excellent events?

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  • Savage idea. Can’t happen soon enough.

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  • The Hunky Dory Super League …… Can’t wait for the ad campaign.

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  • Do they swap jerseys (bra’s) after the match… ???!!

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  • Resel 02/09/12 #

    Might just get me into sport. “go wan my son”

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  • “moar” pictures

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  • brilliant !! fair play to them …..LOL

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  • Steve 02/09/12 #

    Exploiting female sexuality to sell a sport is fine as long as the right balance is found.

    Just look at women’s tennis. It’s probably the only major sport in the world where the the earnings of the leading females can compare with those of men.

    It obviously does the sport no harm that they play in short skirts but I’m certain the overwhelming majority of viewers tune in to see the tennis, not the flesh. Like I said, it’s about balance.

    Ladies GAA could possibly benefit from outfits more similar to hockey. They’re not exploitative at all. Just a lot more feminine (and probably comfortable) than the oversized baggy outfits worn in ladies GAA.

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  • There’s an inherent problem with a lot of womens sports. Its not that they’re not as strong, for example in womens football, they’re just a thousand times worse. Have you seen womens international football? It’s pretty rough. I know several lads who would be good enough at soccer to get on international womens teams in soccer but wouldn’t be automatic for the local five-a-side.
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    I think that’s not something inate but something to do with the low interest but if it is something inate then some womens sports will never be that great on most levels. Things like Tennis, Boxing and possibly golf seem to be obvious counterpoints but international team sports often are just awful to watch. Our own ones are skillful (camogie and football) but there are still simplifications of the rules that have nothing to do with strength just skill. Rising the ball for example. It’s not a paralympic sport, the only difference should be about speed and strength to be as impressive as male sports.

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    • Conor,

      Did you watch any of the women’s soccer at the London Olympics? If not, go find some of it online and then revisit your comment. I’d love to see any of your local boys take on one of those women.

      As for the simplification of GAA rules, there is an argument for the men’s sport to follow the ladies’ game in terms of rising the ball off the ground to make it faster. In camogie, there are very few rule differences that simplify the game. We use a size 4 ball (as opposed to a size 5 that is used in hurling) and we take 45s instead of 65s, which makes sense really. The only rule that sticks out is that we’re allowed handpass a goal, and ask most camogie players, we’d love to see that one get the boot. Women’s sports have a long way to go but I think it’s more because of attitudes like yours rather than us not being as good as men or good enough to play.

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    • Apologies Sinead if I caused offence because of bad grammar (I actually think you misread my comment ["Our own ones are skillful (camogie and football)"] but it also could definitely be my bad grammar) but I specifically Meant to say that camogie and gaelic football is obviously as skillfull as the male side of things. (Again I think to make sure there can be no bolocks on this topic I think that the rules unless obviously about strength should be the same no matter what between genders, thats all I was saying about the rising rule)

      But there’s no way I’m not right on female soccer, I did watch one full match and it was atrocious, same as every other time I’ve watched soccer matches. I’m pretty sure its bout interest level because with a lot of them there was a basic dis-organisation and also a bizarre misunderstanding of how to hit the ball, I’m a shite sportsman but I could still connect with the ball as well as a lot of those playing. They were literally missing the ball.

      Basically my comment should have been aimed more at at soccer, sorry for seeming to waive towards generalisation, but the soccer was pretty bad and I would have no problem throwing a few friends into that fray on skill alone, into Irish female sports and they’d get eaten.

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    • Thanks for clearing that up about camogie and football.

      As for your insults to women’s soccer, I would strongly suggest you go watch the USA versus Canada from the Games. 120 minutes that blow your theory to pieces, I’m afraid.

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    • Sinéad I watched Canada Vs USA. It was a fantastic game with a very high level of skill on both sides.

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    • Ok I will, any place you know of I can watch it now?

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    • Conor – You can watch the USA-Canada game here (apologies for the lack of commentary – but perhaps it’ll recreate the actually-being-there atmosphere!

      http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/london2012/index.html?video_id=7911

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  • thank you very nice

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  • medred 02/09/12 #

    Oh the privilege of being outraged.
    There is a simple reason why women’s sports are not as popular as men’s sport and its because you notice that the majority of men spend their free time playing talking about or watching sport. Its like the way alot of women spend their time shopping for clothes ever notice that the mens section in Dunnes or Maks and Specers is a 10 mile hike from the door and a fraction the size of the womens department. Its supply and demand. Im sorry but you can’t force people to take interest in something they have no interest in, remember that feminist priniciple of choice … or does that only extend to killing babies

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    • Tommy C 02/09/12 #

      Oh shut up Medred! In your eyes,, women are ok once they do what you tell them to and that includes their fertility. we have seen that from other posts. Youre anti-women anyway.
      Most men dont play sports, most men sit in pubs watching sports. Get off your high horse you dope.
      And you dont have to be a woman to respect a womans decision to control her own body as she pleases. Id rather my daughter make decisions for herself rather than let some man do it for her.

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    • medred 02/09/12 #

      Tommy what a great comment full of insults and assumptions of misogyny. Tell someone that they can do what they want all the time is patronising. I expect everyone man or woman to be responsible for their actions. Unlike you Tommy. Telling them they are the oppressed little princesses helps no one and actually distracts from the real oppression in society.

      Now, unless you have something intelligent to say I suggest you go away.

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  • People are not going to pay their Sky Sports subscriptions to watch women competing in certain sports, if they would you can be damn sure the people at Sky would have sussed this out a decade ago and we’d all be watching the women’s football this weekend as well as the men’s. Some of the readers of this interesting article need to wake up to the fact that women’s sports are simply not the money-makers that men’s sports are.

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    • I think you missed the point Max? Women’s sports COULD be the money-makers that the men’s are if given the opportunity. Just look at women’s soccer in America – it took off much faster than the men’s version of the game.

      And if you asked Londoners four years ago whether 2.3 million tickets for the Paralympics would be sold, would you believe them? Minority sports don’t have to stay as that.

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    • Sinead, I think you may have missed the point of my comment. Sky Sports and other such organizations will have pumped hundreds of thousands (millions maybe) into researching what sells. If monkeys picking bugs off each other brought in as much revenue as say, the Premier League in England does, this is what would be on TV. Many here have pointed out that the majority of people watching the sports and paying the subscriptions (or asking their wives to pay haha) are men, who are interested in watching the highest quality of sports. Women sports could be compared to the lower leagues of football in England, they are not in the public eye as much due to the simple fact that people do not want to watch them as much as the Premier League. All good debate though.

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    • There have been a couple of really interesting points made in this thread and a lot of them are pointing to the same thing – that women’s sports are not on TV because of a perceived lack of interest from audiences. The point I am trying to make is without decent coverage in the first place, how can any sport develop? (And that applies to male and female sports).

      The Premier League wasn’t always the League it is today. Sky Sports changed football in the UK forever when it took over coverage and the money that has flowed into the game since (with the better facilities, more exposure and greater global audiences) subsequently allowed clubs to recruit from overseas which in turn has made the League even stronger. The Heineken Cup has become the tournament it is today because of extensive TV coverage – and it’s only now that the RaboDirect Pro 12 is catching up (slowly).

      Also, responding to the point that ‘exploiting female sexuality’ to sell a sport is okay, once it’s balanced. What if the same tennis authorities decided in the morning that men should play the game just wearing shorts to try and attract more females to the sport? I wouldn’t be in favour of that anymore than Katie Taylor being forced into wearing a skirt to take part in a sport she loves. Sport should be about the skill and Ireland alone has a lot of very talented female athletes out there…

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    • Tommy C 02/09/12 #

      Max, ”People are not going to pay their Sky Sports subscriptions to watch women competing in certain sports”, well maybe women would if they were brought up believing that they were just as important as men on the sports field. My son and daughter both play sports and the get the same reaction from me and the missus when they compete. One will never get more attention than the other and they both watch their individual sports on the tv.

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    • Steve 02/09/12 #

      The tennis authorities ruling men should play shirtless isn’t a valid comparison since they haven’t ruled what the ladies can and can’t wear.

      There’s no doubt the WTA has used sex to sell the sport in the past. My point is that if it’s done in a tasteful and balanced way then it’s for the greater good because it ultimately leads to more people watching and appreciating female tennis players as athletes.

      Anna Ivanovic is pretty hopeless at the moment but has been put on prime time US slots all week. Everyone knows why that is, but she earned around 12 million dollars last year in the middle of a career slump so ask her if she feels she’s being exploited for her looks.

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  • They just started a 4 team league in Canada, including one locally. Uniforms (or the lack there of in this case) aside, the reviews if those who attended were rather positive if the actual on field talent and physical play of the game. These ain’t no cheerleaders or “Bud girls” that promote the beer at events.

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  • I’m going to guess that the author has never seen a full game of this sport. it is quite athletic and competitive. How is this any different to womens beach volleyball or swimming. Same amount of skin shown in those sports isn’t there?

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    • Tommy C 02/09/12 #

      Why dont the women wear the same clothes as the men when playing this sport if its so athletic? No one goes to see these women play for their sporting prowess so please dont pretend otherwise.

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